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Vapour trails left by British bombers on route to attack flying-bomb sites encircle the dome of St. Paul's Cathedral. London, 1944.
All those who passionately believe that "contrails dissipate quickly" whereas "chemtrails linger" and are deeply offended by the sceptical position that TNRA takes in regard to these claims, are free to "unlike" Truth News.
If, on the other hand, you would like to engage in rational debate, you're most welcome to do so.
However, please be advised that the information I have to impart may be shocking and difficult to grasp if you have been a "chemtrail alarmist" for a long time.
The often cited claim that "normal contrails dissipate quickly" is total bunkum.
There is not a shred of science to backup that claim. Nothing, nada, zippo!
Those who promote this idea are simply repeating something they read on a web page without checking sources.
CONTRAIL SCIENCE
For a contrail to form, suitable conditions must occur immediately behind a jet engine in the expanding engine exhaust plume. A contrail will form if, as the exhaust gases cool and mix with surrounding air, the humidity becomes high enough (or, equivalently, the air temperature becomes low enough) for liquid water to condense on particles and form liquid droplets. If the local air is cold enough, these newly formed droplets then freeze and form ice particles that make up a contrail.
Because the basic processes are very well understood, contrail formation for a given aircraft flight can be accurately predicted if atmospheric temperature and humidity conditions are known.
After the initial formation of ice, a contrail evolves in one of two ways. If the humidity is low, the contrail will be short-lived. Newly formed ice particles will quickly evaporate. The resulting contrail will extend only a short distance behind the aircraft. If the humidity is high, the contrail will be persistent. Newly formed ice particles will continue to grow in size by taking water from the surrounding atmosphere. The resulting line-shaped contrail extends for large distances behind an aircraft. Persistent contrails can last for hours while growing to several kilometers in width and 200 to 400 meters in height. Contrails spread because of air turbulence created by the passage of aircraft, differences in wind speed along the flight track, and possibly through effects of solar heating.
Thus, the surrounding atmosphere’s conditions determine to a large extent whether or not a contrail will form after an aircraft’s passage, and how it evolves. Other factors that influence contrail formation include engine fuel efficiency, which affects the amount of heat and water emitted in the exhaust plume.
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TNRA is informed by science and is not interested in propping up anyone's belief systems, and we don't apologise for that.
But, please, don't take it from me, speak to any meteorologist or any pilot and they'll tell you straight, that there is HUGE variation in the length and persistence of contrails. Sometimes they don't form at all, other times they form, but disspate quickly, other times they persist and spread out.
That's the facts folks, and it's been that way since planes first went up in the sky.
If you believe otherwise, I'm afraid you've been conned.
Forgive me if I seem rude or impatient on this topic, but every few months I come across a new wave of people who have been subjected to the same false propaganda about chemtrails, and I have to run the same arguments and cite the same articles over and over again. It does wear one's patience down.
Before making some kind of angry reply, I urge you to read this article and associated links. It's fairly detailed, and deals with most of the usual claims made by chemtrail alarmists.
Finally, let me qualify all this by saying that I do not doubt that geo-engineering programs exist, and that, indeed, some of the patented techniques discussed at international forums include the creation of artificial cirrus cloud. Does this, however, entitle you to conclude that every spreading contrail you see is an example of such geo-engineering?
Think about it.
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RECLAIM AUSTRALIA IS DOOMED
Although I agree with many of their ideas, the forces reigned against RAM are too great, violent, statist and reactionary for them to remain a non-political, broad based, multi-ethnic, community protest group for much longer. The Left and their Antifa nihilist fellow travelers are already pushing them towards the extreme Right, by calling them racists and Islamophobes and so on. Whilst the extreme Right have aligned themselves with RAM. With fascists of the Left and Right pressuring them they will not be able to remain beyond the Left-Right divide and will inevitably move to the Right - the extreme Right. Which is already happening. A development which will alienate decent Australians of all ethnic backgrounds many of whom currently support them.
The RAM leadership have already established open alliances with the Patriotic Front (the ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration) Australia First and Golden Dawn, a Greek neo-Nazi party. Members of these collectivist groups are currently attending RAM demonstrations all over Australia.
There is a real need in Australia to establish a political movement beyond the Left-Right divide and their vested interests, a movement that questions the current direction Australia is heading i.e. the direction the Left/Right and their extremes would like to take it; that questions the efficacy of state sponsored multiculturalism, as opposed to a proper, non-discriminatory immigration policy; that questions the validity of political correctness; that is politically neutral, anti-war and pro environment; that is opposed to all collectivists ideologies (fascisms of the Left and Right); that would dismantle the power pyramids of corporations and banks and their ability to impact on government; that would dissolve all anti-terror laws and all laws that impose on the rights and freedom of the individual and the people.
(The ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration)
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/reclaim-australia-rally-set-for-sydney-on-sunday-20150718-gifb9s.html
http://australiafirstparty.net/news/reclaiming-australia-queensland-senate-campaign/
By Eugene Donnini on 2015 07 26 - 15:36:56
From the entry 'Dylann Roof: soldier in a new race war or just a pawn in the game?'.
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By Prova a Adidas Neutro Originals Nizza Nero Giallo on 2015 07 20 - 08:41:30
From the entry 'Statism, the greater good and the big lie'.
I second Keith’s assertion that Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake. He bangs on about Halaal being a scam and money maker for Islam (and no I don’t support Halaal whatsoever), but makes excuses for its counterpart Kosher as being a somehow legitimate. Double standards? When I confronted him about this fact he went off on a convoluted tirade about Israel being some sort of “Bastion of Democracy” in the middle east…Really!, I will leave that one up to the readers to decide on. I found that MH came across as disingenuous to say the least.
By Citizen Scorn on 2015 07 19 - 07:33:43
From the entry 'Restore Australia!'.
Without doubt, TNR is one of the best, if not the best alternative news source on the net. Which doesn’t mean Herewood is always right. His job, I believe, is to present the facts as he sees them as an objectively as possible, without fear or favor. For this, he has my respect and support. But I believe he needs to be careful and to think a little deeper about the problems of “racism,” in Australia. He has labelled the Reclaim Australia Movement as racist. I’m wondering if his objectivity is a little weak on this point, a little without foundation.
Of course all political movements have its fringe groups and individuals. We make a distinction between, for example, a Muslim and a fundamentalist Muslim (Islamist), and by so doing we don’t claim that all Muslims are blood thirsty fanatics. If its good for the Muslims, then its good for RAM, which is bound to attract a few lunatics and real racists. But to brand the entire movement as “racist” is wrong; it is the same ploy that is used by the mainstream media and its left-wing, establishment Marxist boot boys.
One of the first things I noticed when i attended a RAM rally recently were the amount of non-white people in attendance, including Aboriginals. In fact the main banner of RAM contains an Australian flag and an Aboriginal flag. Speakers at their rallies have included Jews, Arabs, Indians, Aboriginals, Chinese and so on. What does this tell you? Is this really a fascist-Nazi-racist movement whose stated aim are the eradication and exclusion of other cultures, in place of some sort of Aussie white Reich, or is this just propaganda that is being propagated by the left for their own political interests. Consequently, we all know where the culmination of their politics have led, historically speaking, which are to the imposition of terror and dictatorships.
We can be thankful for small mercies, in terms of the Left, which today mostly tends to attract collectivists, establishmentarians and the privileged sons and daughters of the upper bourgeoisie, who seems to share one thing in common, nativity….
By Eugene on 2015 07 18 - 16:03:54
From the entry 'Dylann Roof: soldier in a new race war or just a pawn in the game?'.
Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake. He hasn’t even been citizen for but a few years. But, he makes out like he was born there. ALSO - this guy spent 30 years in Thailand working shady businesses. I would wager that his primary purpose in being an activist is that he wants to make money off selling merchandise.
By Keith on 2015 07 17 - 20:51:15
From the entry 'Restore Australia!'.
good to see you putting out some new shows heraward
freely the banana girl is to a certain extent a troll, as is her boyfriend durian rider. they have been trolling the fitness community on youtube for some time… and yes they are extreme but they are also trolls. They use their trolling to spread their message. currently, another dude called vegangains is trolling the fitness community as well.
i am a vegetarian, and it was seeing this documentary on the pork industry that started me on the vegetarian path. for anyone interested, its pretty off the charts disturbing and its australian as well. its pretty much made by dudes breaking into pork farms and filming what they find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U
Would the world be better if people cared where their food came from? probably, they might then care about other things too
do you become a better person if you dont eat meat? i feel like a better person mainly because animals aren’t being hurt because of me. i dont feel humans have to eat meat really… or at least not much. How can you watch that documentary on pork, know that that is pretty much whats going on and turn a blind eye to it? I think its basic empathy and just saying well ‘i like bacon so yeah’ is in my opinion wrong and i can see freleys point of view to an extent. In my opinion, at least these people believe in something. i see my money as my vote, henceforth im ethical as to what i do with it. free range eggs became mainstream for exactly this reason… although im pretty sure woolies and coles lobbied the state to change the definition of the word ‘free range’ at some point. I dont eat beef because the amount of resources that go into growing a cow are pretty crazy. Think about how much grass that cow needs to eat before it is harvested and how much space it requires. think of how many vegies you could grow in the same space with the same amount of water. lamb? comon, think about what your doing here… but that being said i think most vegans are total loons. People like freeley should be advocating for the destruction of lions and tigers, as lions and tigers murder other animals in truly horrific style. if we humans are smart enough to not harm animals, then we should be stopping the animals that harm other animals from existing. Freeley also kills birds when she flies in aeroplanes so she is a hypocrite.
feminism is one of the biggest problems in society today and although there is some valid historical basis to it, the liberation of the human female from their biology is in my opinion largely a product of the technological advance of humans. sufferagettes where never machine gunned on the streets, unlike the men that where drafted and sent off to war to die just a few years earlier. as technology has advanced, women have advanced as well, however now its going way too far and is pretty blatantly anti male in many respects. i view feminism in its modern context as a tool of the social marxists that really isnt doing society a great deal of good at this time. its screwing up gender dynamics and is wrecking women and men for each other. i see it as low frequency, lowest common denominator idiocy, just like a lot of the the race baiting ‘is this racist’ stuff getting around that is being perpetuated pretty much as a distraction, divide and conquer strategy by the power elite. idiots love this kind of bicker and beef… it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious
anyway
I agree with steven friar. gods a maniac
good show… keep making them
By r0Kb3B0p on 2015 07 14 - 21:05:32
From the entry 'Addictions, obsessions, fanaticisms and distractions'.
Really truthfull.
By OZE on 2015 07 07 - 16:56:36
From the entry 'Defending your personal health choices'.
Yeah sure authority aware.
By OZE on 2015 07 07 - 16:28:55
From the entry 'What is the future of Australia?'.
Stay tuned for more rules here as usually is the case!!!
By OZE on 2015 07 07 - 16:21:50
From the entry 'Mass media disinformation and brainwashing dissected'.
Almost two months since the last broadcast! How the hell can you expect people to donate when you don’t broadcast? Looks like the ship of truth has sprung a leak. This broadcast has been part of my life almost since its inception…it is one of the few alternative news sources that hasn’t gone off the deep end, by dilution credible information with crap e.g. Fairdinkum Radio and Info Wars…Pittard started FR with some incredibly interesting material, but then he flipped…Today he sounds like a fundamentalist preacher, the Christian equivalent to a Fanatical Islamist. As an atheist, I think he’s really ###### up a potentially good show. As for Info Wars, all they would have to do to improve is dump Alex Jones, what a shit-for-brains. I reckon Jones and Pittard are allowed to proliferate, because they’re so stupid and harmless. I suppose they have some entertainment value, and along with David Icke are living examples of how low the alternative media has sunk. Truth News Radio is, or should I say was, way ahead of them all ahead of them all in terms of credibility How sad that its come to this.
By Eugene on 2015 06 28 - 17:28:56
From the entry 'Introducing Internet.org: Mark Zuckerberg's free 'private' internet which will soon be rolled out to 4 billion+ people'.
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dont like being called out on your bullshit do you #######.. makes yyou all angryface, makes you lose the plot.. make you think calling someone unemployed is a winning strategy..
what a wonderful demonstration of your magnificent intellect .. lolol
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 09 - 07:07:24
I wonder if it is cognitive dissonance or something more sinister we are dealing with here.
By Cris on 2014 12 09 - 08:45:57
cognitive dissonance :D - they are just all at sea here.. they simply cant respond to the fact they have been proven, by their own ineptness, to be bald-faced liars, and are as we speak, are frantically running around in ever diminishing circles looking for an exit strategy, only to be getting ever closer to finally disappearing up their own stinking cloacas.
sinister would require them to actually have the ability to think something through, which they have demonstrated here, over years..and elsewhere.. that for them, such a thing is impossible.
what a mob of sadsack losers.. i wonder if glynn has kids.. they must be so embarrassed.. poor poor things.. to think, their granparents were siblings…
glynn is a walking example of why incest was outlawed, and josh.. well hes just the best argument for late term abortions ive ever seen.
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 09 - 10:08:27
cognitive dissonance
ha! the gift of truth.. from a website full of lies.. show us some of your truth about the pentagon fenton. gormless twat - instead of begging for money to support your lies, why dont you just go get a job.. the government doesnt need you to promote their bullshit, our taxes do that..
this website brings stupidity to a whole new level.. TRUTHnews? its neither true, or news.. you wouldnt know truth if it jumped up and bit you on your arse.
buy someone a subscription? i cant think of anyone i despise enough to do that to them
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 09 - 10:39:31
ya wave a little truth in front of these idiots, and they run away faster than you can say “beyond the spin!”
gutless snivelling little pissant grots
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 09 - 12:28:33
^^^^^ lol key bored hero right there .
By Big Mick on 2014 12 10 - 04:43:07
^^^ onya dick
ive said before, all im doing is highlighting the fact that these smeckheads are simply not credible. all they have to do, to be credible - is back up their lies with some irrefutable evidence. they say a 757 hit the pentagon. when asked to provide evidence, they run a mile. actually, in some instances, they continually ban users, and delete all the comments, then, they make is so everyone has to register.
if that is the support of website you support for your truth… well, that says a lot more about you than anyone else.
go on.. you try it.. you try asking them for some evidence to support their position that a 757 hit the pentagon, see how far ya get.. good luck lumpen
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 10 - 05:01:26
Cris wrote:
“I wonder if it is cognitive dissonance or something more sinister we are dealing with here.”
Not sure to what you are relating here.
Anyway, did you have a look at the air traffic over Western Queensland? Quite busy up there, isn’t it?
By Josh on 2014 12 10 - 05:23:55
ohhh josh anonymous, internet arbiter of all things truthy is back..
are you going to post some evidence that supports the position of this website of yours that a 757 hit the pentagon, or are you going to run away again ya big sook..
why should anyone believe anything you have to say when youve proven yourself to be nothing but a big fat liar? hmmmmm?
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 10 - 06:16:06
josh anonymous, internet arbiter of all things truthy, will tell anyone who cares to listen, that no matter what the weather conditions are where you are, no matter how dry the air is, no matter what is normal air traffic for any area, no matter what you may be seeing, it is nothing to worry about. it is only water.
he can say this without knowing where it is that is being referred to, without knowing what the weather is like, and without knowing how many planes are actually flying about.
he can do this simply, because he is joch anonymous, internet arbiter of all thisngs truthy.
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 10 - 06:19:17
“Finally, let me qualify all this by saying that I do not doubt that geo-engineering programs exist, and that, indeed, some of the patented techniques discussed at international forums include the creation of artificial cirrus cloud. Does this, however, entitle you to conclude that every spreading contrail you see is an example of such geo-engineering?”
does the fact that some contrails may persist longer than others rule out chemtrails completely?
such a disingenuous argument you use. full of shit.
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 10 - 06:25:00
G’day Andrew,
I see that Anonymous admits to being a hobby pilot who scans the Internet to grasp things from Universities and other sources that could, according to him, seem to support his dream-time claims. He has never yet explained why, or how, he believes that a bucketful of ice cubes thrown into an Olympic-sized swimming pool will reduce the temperature of all the water contained therein to produce more ice cubes, or if a bucketful of boiling water was thrown into the same pool at a different time, the temperature of all the water would rise to some criterion he sets. This also along with Anonymous’s praise of an alleged QANTAS pilot who slavishly follows his claims to the “T”, yet Anonymous, sitting at his keyboard in some unknown jurisdiction believes he knows all about what happens everywhere because he views it through the eyes of his computer. Wow!
By Leonard Clampett on 2014 12 10 - 06:46:21
G’day Leonard, LOVE YOUR WORK! :D
josh anonymous is absolutely gorgeous! - he provides no end of amusement as he seems to actually believe he is making some sort of persuasive argument.
his determinations of what is, and what isnt, based on his feelings at the time, his considered unqualified opnions, that come from his ability to just close his eyes and imagine.. are as remarkable as the stories of a 5 year olds monster that lives under his bed. it makes me feel i could almost believe it myself, if only i was 5 years old again, i could block out the realities of this world, and just imagine.. so cute!!!!
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 10 - 07:06:54
Dear Josh, you wrote:
Cris wrote:
“I wonder if it is cognitive dissonance or something more sinister we are dealing with here.”
Not sure to what you are relating here.
Anyway, did you have a look at the air traffic over Western Queensland? Quite busy up there, isn’t it?
........
I stumbled across one of your posts where you said that it(CTs I guess) is simply weather.
The “Simple” tends to make me lean towards cognitive dissonance being your problem.
By the way there is minimal air traffic where I am in the scrub. Except for when rain is immanent.
Like 10 to 100 times more.
WHY?
Is that put simply enough for you to answer credibly?
By Cris on 2014 12 10 - 08:37:33
Andrew Adams wrote:
“youve proven yourself to be nothing but a big fat liar”
Please point out specifically where I lied.
By Josh on 2014 12 10 - 14:20:44
Cris wrote:
“I stumbled across one of your posts where you said that it(CTs I guess) is simply weather.”
I may have been unclear. What I meant to point out is that all those factors influencing contrail formation - patches of ice-supersaturated air, fronts lifting up humidity, haze layers and many more - can just be called “weather”, which has always been known as being variable to humans.
Weather changes, so contrail conditions change too. That’s all.
“By the way there is minimal air traffic where I am in the scrub. Except for when rain is immanent. Like 10 to 100 times more.”
That’s because planes are hard to see if they don’t trail. Trailing often increases preceding rain. There is constant air traffic over Western Queensland when you look it up at Flightradar 24.
If you get yourself an ADS-B receiver (USB stick for less than $50), you can receive the ADS-B signal from the planes directly, showing all their details. That’s what Flightradar is displaying.
By Josh on 2014 12 11 - 04:17:37
“Please point out specifically where I lied.”
where you say there is no such thing as chemtrails dickhead..
also you accused me of making threats against retarded glynn..
your whole existence is a lie cunt
now how about offering up some evidence that supports your position that a 757 hit the pentagon #######
you keep avoiding that dont you.. you run away like a startled gazelle..
whats wrong? no courage of your convictions? maybe because youre a big fat liar
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 11 - 04:18:32
does the fact that some contrails may last longer than others ( under specific weather conditions) entitle you to conclude there is no such thing as chemtrails? think about it. the argument you are using is fallacious. you cant prove anything, because youre a big fat liar
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 11 - 04:21:32
thats all? you simply say weather changes, so there is no such thing as chemtrails, thats all..
what a lying cunt
you lie about planes hitting the pentagon, you lie about everything. big fat liar
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 11 - 04:23:58
no they are not.. i can see them, even without my glasses. i tell you what though liar, they are hard to see when they are not there..
also.. there are plenty of trails even when there is no rain due - so your explanations are hardly consistent, especially when an article you yourself linked to said the conditions required for persistent contrails only occurred on rare occassions.. - stupid ####### liar
By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 11 - 04:28:25
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