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The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some contrails are actually chemicals or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for a purpose undisclosed to the general public. Versions of the chemtrail conspiracy theory circulating on the internet and radio talk shows theorize that the activity is directed by government officials. As a result, federal agencies have received thousands of complaints from people who have demanded an explanation. The existence of chemtrails has been repeatedly refuted by government agencies and scientists around the world.
The United States Air Force has stated that the theory is a hoax which "has been investigated and refuted by many established and accredited universities, scientific organizations, and major media publications". The British Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs has stated that chemtrails "are not scientifically recognised phenomena". The Canadian Government House Leader has stated that "The term 'chemtrails' is a popularized expression, and there is no scientific evidence to support their existence."
The term chemtrail is derived from "chemical trail" in the similar fashion that contrail is an abbreviation for condensation trail. It does not refer to common forms of aerial spraying such as crop dusting, cloud seeding or aerial firefighting. The term specifically refers to aerial trails allegedly caused by the systematic high-altitude release of chemical substances not found in ordinary contrails, resulting in the appearance of supposedly uncharacteristic sky tracks. Believers of this theory speculate that the purpose of the chemical release may be for global dimming, population control, weather control, or biowarfare and claim that these trails are causing respiratory illnesses and other health problems.
RECLAIM AUSTRALIA IS DOOMED
Although I agree with many of their ideas, the forces reigned against RAM are too great, violent, statist and reactionary for them to remain a non-political, broad based, multi-ethnic, community protest group for much longer. The Left and their Antifa nihilist fellow travelers are already pushing them towards the extreme Right, by calling them racists and Islamophobes and so on. Whilst the extreme Right have aligned themselves with RAM. With fascists of the Left and Right pressuring them they will not be able to remain beyond the Left-Right divide and will inevitably move to the Right - the extreme Right. Which is already happening. A development which will alienate decent Australians of all ethnic backgrounds many of whom currently support them.
The RAM leadership have already established open alliances with the Patriotic Front (the ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration) Australia First and Golden Dawn, a Greek neo-Nazi party. Members of these collectivist groups are currently attending RAM demonstrations all over Australia.
There is a real need in Australia to establish a political movement beyond the Left-Right divide and their vested interests, a movement that questions the current direction Australia is heading i.e. the direction the Left/Right and their extremes would like to take it; that questions the efficacy of state sponsored multiculturalism, as opposed to a proper, non-discriminatory immigration policy; that questions the validity of political correctness; that is politically neutral, anti-war and pro environment; that is opposed to all collectivists ideologies (fascisms of the Left and Right); that would dismantle the power pyramids of corporations and banks and their ability to impact on government; that would dissolve all anti-terror laws and all laws that impose on the rights and freedom of the individual and the people.
(The ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration)
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/reclaim-australia-rally-set-for-sydney-on-sunday-20150718-gifb9s.html
http://australiafirstparty.net/news/reclaiming-australia-queensland-senate-campaign/
By Eugene Donnini on 2015 07 26 - 15:36:56
From the entry 'Dylann Roof: soldier in a new race war or just a pawn in the game?'.
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By Prova a Adidas Neutro Originals Nizza Nero Giallo on 2015 07 20 - 08:41:30
From the entry 'Statism, the greater good and the big lie'.
I second Keith’s assertion that Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake. He bangs on about Halaal being a scam and money maker for Islam (and no I don’t support Halaal whatsoever), but makes excuses for its counterpart Kosher as being a somehow legitimate. Double standards? When I confronted him about this fact he went off on a convoluted tirade about Israel being some sort of “Bastion of Democracy” in the middle east…Really!, I will leave that one up to the readers to decide on. I found that MH came across as disingenuous to say the least.
By Citizen Scorn on 2015 07 19 - 07:33:43
From the entry 'Restore Australia!'.
Without doubt, TNR is one of the best, if not the best alternative news source on the net. Which doesn’t mean Herewood is always right. His job, I believe, is to present the facts as he sees them as an objectively as possible, without fear or favor. For this, he has my respect and support. But I believe he needs to be careful and to think a little deeper about the problems of “racism,” in Australia. He has labelled the Reclaim Australia Movement as racist. I’m wondering if his objectivity is a little weak on this point, a little without foundation.
Of course all political movements have its fringe groups and individuals. We make a distinction between, for example, a Muslim and a fundamentalist Muslim (Islamist), and by so doing we don’t claim that all Muslims are blood thirsty fanatics. If its good for the Muslims, then its good for RAM, which is bound to attract a few lunatics and real racists. But to brand the entire movement as “racist” is wrong; it is the same ploy that is used by the mainstream media and its left-wing, establishment Marxist boot boys.
One of the first things I noticed when i attended a RAM rally recently were the amount of non-white people in attendance, including Aboriginals. In fact the main banner of RAM contains an Australian flag and an Aboriginal flag. Speakers at their rallies have included Jews, Arabs, Indians, Aboriginals, Chinese and so on. What does this tell you? Is this really a fascist-Nazi-racist movement whose stated aim are the eradication and exclusion of other cultures, in place of some sort of Aussie white Reich, or is this just propaganda that is being propagated by the left for their own political interests. Consequently, we all know where the culmination of their politics have led, historically speaking, which are to the imposition of terror and dictatorships.
We can be thankful for small mercies, in terms of the Left, which today mostly tends to attract collectivists, establishmentarians and the privileged sons and daughters of the upper bourgeoisie, who seems to share one thing in common, nativity….
By Eugene on 2015 07 18 - 16:03:54
From the entry 'Dylann Roof: soldier in a new race war or just a pawn in the game?'.
Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake. He hasn’t even been citizen for but a few years. But, he makes out like he was born there. ALSO - this guy spent 30 years in Thailand working shady businesses. I would wager that his primary purpose in being an activist is that he wants to make money off selling merchandise.
By Keith on 2015 07 17 - 20:51:15
From the entry 'Restore Australia!'.
good to see you putting out some new shows heraward
freely the banana girl is to a certain extent a troll, as is her boyfriend durian rider. they have been trolling the fitness community on youtube for some time… and yes they are extreme but they are also trolls. They use their trolling to spread their message. currently, another dude called vegangains is trolling the fitness community as well.
i am a vegetarian, and it was seeing this documentary on the pork industry that started me on the vegetarian path. for anyone interested, its pretty off the charts disturbing and its australian as well. its pretty much made by dudes breaking into pork farms and filming what they find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U
Would the world be better if people cared where their food came from? probably, they might then care about other things too
do you become a better person if you dont eat meat? i feel like a better person mainly because animals aren’t being hurt because of me. i dont feel humans have to eat meat really… or at least not much. How can you watch that documentary on pork, know that that is pretty much whats going on and turn a blind eye to it? I think its basic empathy and just saying well ‘i like bacon so yeah’ is in my opinion wrong and i can see freleys point of view to an extent. In my opinion, at least these people believe in something. i see my money as my vote, henceforth im ethical as to what i do with it. free range eggs became mainstream for exactly this reason… although im pretty sure woolies and coles lobbied the state to change the definition of the word ‘free range’ at some point. I dont eat beef because the amount of resources that go into growing a cow are pretty crazy. Think about how much grass that cow needs to eat before it is harvested and how much space it requires. think of how many vegies you could grow in the same space with the same amount of water. lamb? comon, think about what your doing here… but that being said i think most vegans are total loons. People like freeley should be advocating for the destruction of lions and tigers, as lions and tigers murder other animals in truly horrific style. if we humans are smart enough to not harm animals, then we should be stopping the animals that harm other animals from existing. Freeley also kills birds when she flies in aeroplanes so she is a hypocrite.
feminism is one of the biggest problems in society today and although there is some valid historical basis to it, the liberation of the human female from their biology is in my opinion largely a product of the technological advance of humans. sufferagettes where never machine gunned on the streets, unlike the men that where drafted and sent off to war to die just a few years earlier. as technology has advanced, women have advanced as well, however now its going way too far and is pretty blatantly anti male in many respects. i view feminism in its modern context as a tool of the social marxists that really isnt doing society a great deal of good at this time. its screwing up gender dynamics and is wrecking women and men for each other. i see it as low frequency, lowest common denominator idiocy, just like a lot of the the race baiting ‘is this racist’ stuff getting around that is being perpetuated pretty much as a distraction, divide and conquer strategy by the power elite. idiots love this kind of bicker and beef… it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious
anyway
I agree with steven friar. gods a maniac
good show… keep making them
By r0Kb3B0p on 2015 07 14 - 21:05:32
From the entry 'Addictions, obsessions, fanaticisms and distractions'.
Really truthfull.
By OZE on 2015 07 07 - 16:56:36
From the entry 'Defending your personal health choices'.
Yeah sure authority aware.
By OZE on 2015 07 07 - 16:28:55
From the entry 'What is the future of Australia?'.
Stay tuned for more rules here as usually is the case!!!
By OZE on 2015 07 07 - 16:21:50
From the entry 'Mass media disinformation and brainwashing dissected'.
Almost two months since the last broadcast! How the hell can you expect people to donate when you don’t broadcast? Looks like the ship of truth has sprung a leak. This broadcast has been part of my life almost since its inception…it is one of the few alternative news sources that hasn’t gone off the deep end, by dilution credible information with crap e.g. Fairdinkum Radio and Info Wars…Pittard started FR with some incredibly interesting material, but then he flipped…Today he sounds like a fundamentalist preacher, the Christian equivalent to a Fanatical Islamist. As an atheist, I think he’s really ###### up a potentially good show. As for Info Wars, all they would have to do to improve is dump Alex Jones, what a shit-for-brains. I reckon Jones and Pittard are allowed to proliferate, because they’re so stupid and harmless. I suppose they have some entertainment value, and along with David Icke are living examples of how low the alternative media has sunk. Truth News Radio is, or should I say was, way ahead of them all ahead of them all in terms of credibility How sad that its come to this.
By Eugene on 2015 06 28 - 17:28:56
From the entry 'Introducing Internet.org: Mark Zuckerberg's free 'private' internet which will soon be rolled out to 4 billion+ people'.
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By pbd62 on 2010 10 03 - 09:26:14
i too, am in the central west of nsw australia.<br>mudgee in fact. i have watched these things for the last few years. we get months where there will be none at all, and then all of a suddeen, tartan skies for weeks or more on end.<br>yesterday i watched 5 jets go from the east, and then 5 from the south, over and over again…. funny thing is, during this time, i also watched two jets, fly directly over these trails, and barely leave a conytrail…so that in itself proves something… i also see the jets arrive and start the spray, when they hadnt left a trail at all before…<br>i also remember when these trails were never a part of our skies.<br>i was told by someone it is just a fuel dump…if that is so, then why, as if fuel isnt expensive enough anyway!<br>where i grew up on the coast we were under a flight zone, and i never saw these trails.. people in my town are so unaware, they think thety are awake, but they are merely dreaming…..
By psynapsutfa on 2010 10 05 - 12:34:54
start asking people what they are, point them out whenever you see them, and explain the difference between a contrail and what they are looking at.<br>point to the other clouds that people think are normal and explain that they are fallen trails….and explain that they are breathing it…i moved to the coubtryside to breath fresh air, and escape the rat race, now i breath fresh pollution and live with the sleepwalkers…
By psynapsurfa on 2010 10 05 - 12:39:03
No. 14202<br>CANADA<br>and<br>UNITED STATES OF AMERICA<br>Agreement relating to the exchange of information on<br>weather modification activities. Signed at Washington<br>on 26 March 1975<br>Authentic texts: English and French.<br>Registered by Canada on 18 August 1975.<br>CANADA<br>et<br>ÉTATS-UNIS<br><br>IN WITNESS WHEREOF the Representatives of the two Governments have signed<br>this Agreement.<br>DONE in duplicate at Washington this twenty-sixth day of March 1975 in<br>English and French, each version being equally authentic.<br>EN FOI DE QUOI les représentants des deux gouvernements ont signé le présent<br>Accord.<br>FAIT en double exemplaire à Washington le vingt-sixième jour de mars 1975 en<br>anglais et en français, les deux textes faisant également foi.<br>[Signed — Signé]<br>JEANNE SAUVÉ<br>For thé Government of Canada<br>Pour le Gouvernement du Canada<br>[Signed — Signé]<br>CHRISTIAN A. HERTER, Jr.<br>For thé Government of the United States of America<br><br>Aware, because of their geographic proximity, that the effects of weather modi<br>fication activities carried out by either Party or its nationals may affect the territory<br>of the other;<br>Noting the diversity of weather modification activities in both Canada and the<br>United States by private parties, by State and Provincial authorities, and by the<br>Federal Governments;<br>Believing that the existing state of knowledge warrants the expectation of fur<br>ther development over a period of time in the science and technology of weather<br>modification;<br>Taking into particular consideration the special traditions of prior notification<br>and consultation and the close cooperation that have historically characterized their<br>relations;<br>Believing that a prompt exchange of pertinent information regarding the nature<br>and extent of weather modification activities of mutual interest may facilitate the<br>development of the technology of weather modification for their mutual benefit;<br>Recognizing the desirability of the development of international law relating to<br>weather modification activities having transboundary effects;<br>Have agreed as follows:<br>Article I. As used in this Agreement:<br>(a) “Weather modification activities”, means activities performed with the in<br>tention of producing artificial changes in the composition, behaviour, or dynamics<br>of the atmosphere;<br>(o) “Weather modification activities of mutual interest” means weather<br>modification activities carried out in or over the territory of a Party within 200 miles<br>of the international boundary; or such activities wherever conducted, which, in the<br>judgment of a Party, may significantly affect the composition, behaviour, or dyna<br>mics of the atmosphere over the territory of the other Party;<br>for info of all
By pbd62 on 2010 10 07 - 05:39:07
There’s no doubt that they are writing the skies with these chemicals, but what for? I’ve herd for Radio signalling, Poisioning the environment to cause global heating and carbon increase for their carbon tax scam, Poisioing the people’s DNA and a few others. We need to work out what they are up too? First we need to do something about the media first!! That’s where the worlds problem lay, but people are awakening to this and starting to turn away from MSM. The sooner the world does that the more free we will be… Simple as that. Expose the media and their manipulation and you’ll get the truth with alot of the world matters… Just a thought
By Daniel on 2010 10 15 - 05:20:38
I live near Maryborough in Queensland Australia, and I hadn’t noticed chemtrails until a few weeks ago. What a very steep learning curve I’ve been on since I started watching, photographing and videoing these. I’ve observed them falling from very high altitudes that have air currents going in the opposite direction to lower cumulonimbus clouds. They just fall down into the lower cloud layer, then change direction, whisping out, becoming hazier as they fall until they’re part of the air we breathe. I had never had a conversation with anyone about this, and felt very alone and crazyish. Each day I photographed constantly, and as I amassed more evidence, I felt confident to start speaking out. I’ve found that people will have preconceived ideas and arguments. The only thing that will open their minds is opening their eyes, and taking time to observe. This is extremely difficult when the chemtrail makers have worked all night to paint the sky and keep filling it all day, so there’s no blue whatsoever. My scariest moment was two days ago when the plane came right down under heavy clouds to get his bearings, as I had not seen the planes, just their pollution, this felt like seeing the enemy and being totally helpless as a target. Not informing the public, not having our knowledge or permission, not telling us what health effects we may expect, or what is in the mix they’re dropping on us, ALL AMOUNT TO A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. If there is a moratorium in place, as decided in Japan recently, what are the legalities of this spraying. Because they don’t tell us, we can start believing the worst, that its to dumb us down, reduce the population, reduce solar power effectiveness, buy time to mine and sell coal and oil rather than change over to green technologies, and make as much money as they can for the fat cats who are behind this violation of human rights. I want to join with others to fight this demon, all the way to the high court if they don’t heed the moratorium.
By Shan on 2010 11 19 - 03:41:57
Good stuff Shan,<br>It is great to see that more are seeing what is going on. You can write books on what is happening up there and like you some of the things I have seen are unbelievable.<br>Lots still don’t want to know(like those that are a part of this site) unless the facts are staring in front of them and by that time it is too late. When the truth comes out they will say it is for the good of humanity, it is for the good of the people that is why we are spraying.<br>Just google “geoengineering the climate” because geoengineering is what they are doing up there. A quote from 2020 science ” Under these criteria, using stratospheric aerosols to scatter sunlight away from the earth comes closest to the ideal”. <br>Read more: http://2020science.org/2009/09/01/geoengineering-the-climate-a-clear-perspective-from-the-royal-society/#ixzz163rK0JwA<br>It is because of lunatic scientists with crazy agenders that we have to put up with the crap, but under the guise of saving YOU! <br>New movie out on chemtrails called “What in the World are they spraying” see here - http://www.viddler.com/explore/Drewsick/videos/24/<br>The Chemtrail /Geo-Engineering Coverup Revealed.By now everyone has seen crisscrossing streaks of white clouds trailing behind jet aircraft, stretching from horizon to horizon, eventually turning the sky into a murky haze. Our innate intelligence tells us these are not mere vapor trails from jet engines, but no one yet has probed the questions: who is doing this and why. With the release of this video, all of that has changed. Here is the story of a rapidly developing industry called geo-engineering, driven by scientists, corporations, and governments intent on changing global climate, controlling the weather, and altering the chemical composition of soil and water ?????????????? all supposedly for the betterment of mankind. Although officials insist that these programs are only in the discussion phase, evidence is abundant that they have been underway since about 1990 ?????????????? and the effect has been devastating to crops, wildlife, and human health. We are being sprayed with toxic substances without our consent and, to add insult to injury, they are lying to us about it. Do not watch this documentary if you have high blood pressure.
By Damian on 2010 11 23 - 06:55:36
Whilst I understand and accept that there are atmospheric experiments of many different kinds going on, the now common beliefs regarding ‘Chemtrails’ are somewhat unrealistic.<br>As an agricultural pilot, the notion of chemtrails gets my attention! Firstly, high-flying aircraft leave con-trails (the more proper description of what is observed) simply as a function of the interaction of heat (from exhaust) and the ambient temperature at that level, and the moisture content of the atmosphere. Con-trails are simply a natural result of high altitude flight. These trails may dissipate almost immediately, remain visible for some minutes, or even spread out (due to the aircraft’s wake) and persist as a high level cloud. It just depends on conditions. These trails are not new. They have always been there, as long as we have been flying at those heights. <br>I can tell you from a professional point of view as a spray pilot, that if anyone wanted to waft spray on you, for any reason, then you most certainly could not hope to reach a ground target by releasing spray at airliner flight levels!! It is beyond anyone’s capability to predict where it might end up, especially considering the fierce winds (often in excess of 170kph) that routinely blow at these heights. A spray released at say 35,000 ft could easily travel many hundreds if not thousands of kilometers. It would certainly NEVER reach anyone directly beneath it!! A spray released at this sort of height overhead England for example would probably never touch the country at all. It would be a random drop indeed, with no likeyhood of arriving at any pre-determined target on the ground.<br>If anyone is thinking that airliners might be being used to spray people for whatever evil purpose consider the following. No airliner has the spare room on board to fit a chemical tank. Even if they could, how could you keep it secret from the flight crew (many sets of crew for each aircraft) and what about the thousands of engineers who will work on the aircraft each year. Are they all being paid off? I don’t think so. To keep anything as sinister as commercial aircraft spraying chemicals on the masses from becoming public knowlege, you would have to conclude that every single pilot, crewperson, aircraft engineer, load-master, refueller, dispatcher, and baggage handler is somehow being paid/threatened to keep quiet about an activity they would simply have to be aware of.<br>Please do not be afraid of con-trails. They are simple ice crystals that form. They resemble the beautiful snow-flake images you have surely seen. And that is about as sinister as they ever get. <br><br>You don’t need to look up to see a real conspiracy. Just look beside you. There is much more interesting stuff going on, much much closer.
By Laurie on 2010 11 27 - 17:50:35
Ok guys. Chem-trails that stop and start? Trails that some aircraft have and others do not? Higher aircraft NOT leaving trails? Come on people. These observations only reflect the fluid and variable state of the atmosphere. <br>An aircraft cruising right on the edge of favourable atmospherics for forming a condensation trail, may occasionally enter and depart the contrail forming layers, thus causing the trail to be intermittent.<br><br>I seriously doubt that anyone from the ground can accurately determine visually the relative heights of two different aircraft in a similar piece of sky. That not whithstanding, there is absolutely nothing unusual about a higher aircraft NOT leaving a trail whilst a lower one does. This again is just an indication of local atmospherics (inversion for example)<br><br>Someone else mentioned that there was a distinct lack of contrails over big cities. Well this is no surprise, since the aircraft have to descend below condensation-trail forming heights in order to land at those cities!!!!<br>Remember also that modern airliners fly higher than ever before. Even on relatively short flights, they fly at altitudes that best fit the traffic system and deliver the most efficient use of the aircraft.<br>There is more air traffic today than ever.<br>Relax.
By Laurie on 2010 11 27 - 18:23:28
Your expertise is of low flying planes, not high altitude jets. <br>What some people had dismissed as mere “jet plane exhaust” (because there are now scores of internet propaganda web sites trying to convince you that ‘everything is well’ and ‘there’s nothing to be alarmed about’ and that unaccountable ‘jet plane exhaust’ plumes are magically being converted into horizon-to-horizon overcasts of “cirrus clouds” !) are dismayed to realise that chemtrails are indeed the toxin-laden aerosols that have been described here and at other web sites since 1998 and they are not being sprayed for any benign or national security reason as the disinformation peddlers would have you believe. <br>Military Chaff<br>X MARKS THE SPOT! Looking out my window a few days ago…<br>First, let’s define military chaff according to one source:<br>“Military Chaff for Jamming of Seeking Weapons. Conventional chaff is released behind military aircraft and floats behind the aircraft creating a multi-target blanket to confuse weapons directed at the aircraft. Conventional chaff is composed of aluminium ribbon foil. This material pollutes the environment once it hits the ground and may be toxic if consumed by domestic and wild animals.”<br><br>Now read this from the Idaho Observer, July 2006:<br>Last May a family in Iowa contacted the office of Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) to report the constant criss-crossing of “chemtrails” in the sky above their neighbourhood. They received back from the senator’s office a General Accounting Office (GAO) report on “military chaff” and the material safety data sheet for aluminium-coated fibreglass fibres being spread—seven days a week for several hours each day—in the skies above their home.<br><br>The chaff is spread by pilots learning how to mask planes or send false radar images. It was reported that the military also has lead-based chaff, but that it is not being used at this time. Chaff was used by the military in Europe in WWII and, according to the GAO, had been used in training here at home since the 50s.<br><br>Once chaff reaches the ground, it breaks down into particles small enough to inhale. Though military spokespeople insist that chaff is not harmful, the GAO report concluded that health effects are unknown and more studies are needed.<br><br>Regardless, some members of this family are very sick. On May 23, after a hard rain the day before, they a noticed glittering substance and a pinkish-colored powder substance on the roof of their house. They then noticed the glittering substance on many surfaces, even the dashboard of the family car. Both substances were collected and sent to a lab for analysis.<br><br>Among the substances found to be in the samples were several that should simply not be there:<br><br>6 bacteria, including anthrax and pneumonia<br><br>9 chemicals including acetylcholine chloride<br><br>26 heavy metals including arsenic, gold, lead,mercury, silver, uranium and zinc<br><br>4 molds and fungi<br><br>7 viruses<br><br>2 cancers<br><br>2 vaccines<br><br>2 sedatives<br><br>Over the last several months, The IO has received a significant increase in chemtrail-related calls and letters. Most report a dramatic increase in chemtrail “spraying” activity in their areas; some are reporting the development of chronic flu-like symptoms, chronic fatigue and body aches that they have never before experienced.<br><br>According the above source, the military has been spraying the skies throughout America, Canada, and parts of Europe with substances that were initially referred to as “mystery contrails”, but later named “chemtrails” by investigative reporter William Thomas.<br><br>When questioned, military and government officials either deny any knowledge of these sprayings outright or they offer unbelievable and ludicrous explanations.<br><br>Some think the military tankers responsible for the spraying are remote controlled aircraft while others feel they are being flown by foreign pilots. Most likely both, I imagine!
By Damian on 2010 11 29 - 12:35:25
There’s no point trying to convince people like Laurie of the reality of chemtrails. He either simply has not researched enough and obviously has not observed the sky above him for long and hard enough. Or, he is simply a detractor for reasons only he knows. Good on you Shan of Maryborough for having the ears to hear and the eyes to see. All you have to do is look up!
By Andy on 2010 11 29 - 13:05:50
By the way, the skies over Brisbane have been absolutely hammered over the last week. Today is the first time we’ve seen the sun for some time, even though the chemtrail haze and “layer” is still up there. The really big days for chemtrailing were November 23 & 24, and to a somewhat lesser extent 26 & 27. On the afternoon of Wednesday November 24 (about 1315), I and numerous people on the ground actually saw the plane laying down the trail. It was the most blatant I had ever witnessed. Most trails were south west/north east oriented, with some cross-hatching south east/north west. The plane I saw was running approx south east/north west.
By Andy on 2010 11 29 - 13:14:50
Take a look at the picture at the top of this page. Its a beautiful shot of some persistant con-trails. <br>The older ones have indeed formed cirrus clouds, which will last until after dark. Cloud formed by contrails is nothing recent. It has always occured, when conditions are right. When contrails do form these clouds, they have the proven, and logical effect of reducing the ammount of sunlight reaching the Earth’s surface (reflected back to space). Witness the fact that in the days following 911, when ALL commercial flights over the States, were suspended, there were easily measurable increases in sunlight recordings, right across the nation. People still recall the beautiful clear skies that existed those few days, thanks to no jets flying. So you could make a strong case for jet transport actually countering some of the alleged climate change effects, but that is another issue.<br>Again, looking at the picture above, you can see from the trails that there is at least one, if not two waypoint intersections in that piece of sky. If you extrapolate the older trails toward the newer ones, you can tell that the upper winds are likely blowing from left to right. <br><br>Whilst my eperience is not in flying jets, I have had to pass exacltly the same exams in Meterology as any jet pilot. I also have had to prove considerable knowlege in the composotion of sprays, how to acheive desired droplet size, and how to apply the chemical to a specific target. To do my job, you need to understand the behaviour of the atmosphere and of the sprays themselves. So, I am at least a little qualified to make observations. I also would be the first to tell you if I ever saw anything sinister in the sky. <br>The patterns people are seeing are just the drifting trails of multiple aircraft flying similar or intersecting routes ( with 1000ft vertical separation if crossing eachother). Whilst consecutive aircraft will most often be flying the identical route over the ground, in many cases, the winds at altitude cause them to drift downwind. A few minutes difference between aircraft will show two distinct trails, even though both have flown the same path over the ground. <br>Add some other traffic crossing a busy route and before you know it, you have some gigantic grids to observe.<br><br>The concept of someone actually collecting some ‘chemtrail’ material is highly unlikely. I am not suggesting that someone did not collect some sort of sample, and I am as concerned as anyone else if the substances found were correct, but I can tell you categorically that there is absolutely no possible way to determine which, if any, ‘trail’ it came from.<br>Again I make the point that you are looking for answers in the wrong direction. Would it not be a whole lot easier to get proof of of the chemicals being loaded on the aircraft? Why don’t you get together and offer a reward to coax proof from a groundsperson who is involved? There simply has to be thousands of them involved, and surely one would squeal for some cash? Hell, I’ll pledge some cash myself, if someone can convince me it’s going on. Perhaps you should align yourselves with the armies of plane-spotters out there, who are in fact, very creditable and accurate observers of the comings and goings from any of our bigger airports. I can assure you these guys would tell you in a flash if they saw anything you might be interested in.<br><br>Unfortunately, the average non-aviator, with respect, is a notorioulsy poor observer of anything in the sky. I well remember when the DC10 was a new thing, at an airshow I attended, there was a competition to guess the height of the aircraft as it flew down the runway. There were estimations ranging from 150ft to 12,000ft. The vast majorty were sure the DC10 was higher than 5,000ft. Turns out it was at 2,000ft. <br>I’m not trying to be disrespectful here, but people are generally hopeless observers of things they do not understand.<br><br>Australia has some very concentrated ‘air corridoors.’ The Eastern seaboard and well into central NSW has a lot of traffic indeed. Navigation is via fixed points on the ground which are either navigation beacons, or numerously today, simple GPS waypoints. These are used in sequence to create ‘roads’ in the sky, which the aircraft follow very precisely thanks to GPS. There are busy times on any route which are typically early morning and late afternoon. Even some points in seemingly remote parts of Australia will see prolific trails, simply because they are situated at a busy waypoint or intersection of routes.<br><br>I suggest you be very careful in making assumptions without proof. If what you think is going on, is actually happenning , on the scale you think it is, then you should have heard some real proof from someone. I mean real proof, not hearsay.<br>If I wanted to spray you, I would be using a much more accurate, less expensive and less visible method. But I don’t, and would never do it.<br>Best wishes in your search for truth.
By Laurie on 2010 11 29 - 18:21:51
If this is pretty common. Why have we not seen them before? I look at the sky regularly & have never noticed them to this frequency. Commercial planes dont just chuck a uey & criss cross their contrails. That is the job of sky writers. Its happening all over the world. Im hesitant to jump on the conspiracy wagon but Im sure of one thing, it has to do with making money. There seems to be a pattern with the trails, mining sites & spiral shapes on the bom radar. Gas mines are popping up all over australia. The appin radar has been down for weeks, right after the spraying started between the vic border & sydney 3-4 weeks ago. Expect gas mining in that area within the next 2 years. Wait & see. Im sure there are multiple agendas afoot but for now, the facts need to be addressed. And the fact is; its happening right now, right above our heads & nothing is being said or done about it in the mainstream media. Ring your local member for parliament. Start local action groups. Be seen. Be heard. Someone in the media needs to be proactive about this!!!! They start these trails in the country areas. Rarely over the cities. I believe with the intent they will blow in to the city unnoticed. Watch your weather. When you see the trails, which city will it move to. There is a pattern Im sure. Good luck.
By buster on 2010 11 30 - 10:38:01
These trails are noticed more now, simply because more people are aware of the mis-guided concept of ‘chemtrails’. Suddenly a whole lot of people are indeed looking up, more than they ever used to. And surprise - they will see the contrails. And of course this is what is being seen all over the world. Nobody cared or noticed untill the concept that someone was deliberately spraying them, was suggested. Then, scared by fear of something they can see, but not comprehend, the issue skyrockets into a massive hysteria indeed.<br>As a pilot with an interest in my workplace, I have noticed these trails since childhood. Just because you haven’t does not mean they are anything new.<br>Yes, there are many many trails in the sky. Yes they will form all sorts of patterns. If they didn’t form patterns then you could assume that all those airliners were just bumbling around, in a random fashion, hoping not to hit eachother. The patterns are simply showing you the air traffic system at work. When you travel on a jet, do you like knowing that the aircraft is travelling a precise route? I sure do. Are their trails sinister? No.<br>Gas mining is scheduled to take place over much of Australia, and in the near future. That is no secret and nothing to do with so-called chemtrails. What is the supposed link anyway? <br>It should be noted that in the last couple of years there has been high activity in the field of aerial digital mapping and survey work. Some of it has even been related to gas exploration. But in the scheme of things, the number of these flights are insignificant compared to normal commercial flights. Also, most geophysical survey flying is done below 25,000ft, with little potential for your trails.<br>If you continue to assume that every airliner trail is a covert spraying operation then your search for the truth will never gain any kind of credibility. <br>Take a look at the statistics for airliner travel around Australia. It is staggering. Coolangatta has nearly 50,000 people per month on average flying in!! What do you think the numbers between Melb and Sydney might be??<br>Again, I make the point, if you really think there is anything covert going on, your best bet is to find and observe these aircraft when they are on the ground. Aircraft ‘chemtrailing’ at the hights you suggest, are by necessity far too large to operate from small country airports, so you only need concentrate your looking at the bigger ones, say from the size of Albury upward. But wait, I guess someone’s going to tell me there are dozens of secret airports all over Australia next?<br>Relax and put your energies toward something more productive for your fellows.
By Laurie on 2010 12 01 - 17:02:30
How fortunate this site is to have a “crop duster” pilot just happen to blow in on this topic to put us (who have average common sense) at ease with his explaination of total garbage.<br><br>Just think for 1 sec,, if secret spraying op’s are going on around the world (which they without doubt are) do you really think they would sit on there hands and do nothing when masses start to wake,,no they would get people like laurence to troll these forums and tell us in the most love hugging way: you are seeing things, this is all normal, all the chemtrail fallout that fall from the sky collected and analysed by scientists around the world are conspiracy nuts, you dont wanna be like them do ya?,<br>no offence but only pilots have the credentials to know whats going on and believe me nothings going on.<br>Well Laurence have u seen the clip an American commercial pilot put on u tube after cruising up behind and above a CT plane filming the spray trail being turned on and off in short and long bursts, bragging how he was going to put the chemtrail vid on u tube, what shall we call that,,hmm lets see minature pockets of interaction between solar vaccume and aerial combustion with a pinch of bulls%it<br><br>Laurence how are you going to explain the massive deposits of allimimiun and barium found up to 1000 times higher then normal levels now found in soils around the world,,,,,,maybe its a good time for you to ask for a pay rise! <br><br>As for your “I guess someones going to tell me there are dozens of secret airports all over Australia next” line,<br>You must be aware of the increase of US military bases all around Australia, not just in pine gap, next youll be telling us they all row here. (you can google that too)<br><br>How are you going to explain congressman Dennis Kucinich’s bill he tried to pass in 2001 that refers to banning CHEMTRAILS , you can read the bill below<br><br>http://www.infowars.com/articles/science/weather_mod_bill_to_restrict_weather_control_kucinich.htm<br><br>I advise anyone who wants a closer version of the truth to watch the new documentary “What in the world are they spraying” google it free.<br>You will soon work out who laurence is, id doubt he/she’s even a pilot
By Laurie is a Shill on 2010 12 01 - 21:03:25
Perhaps I could clarify my position a little. Yes I am an agricultural pilot. Yes I agree that natural airliner contrails are having an effect on climate by virtue of the sun-blocking high-level clouds they sometimes form. No, nobody is paying me to write this stuff, which is a shame because there is plenty to write. <br>I have indeed spent many hours trolling through the numerous utube clips, including, I think, the one mentioned above. Have to say, I saw a lot of great shots of contrails, but the comments were just wrong. <br>If there are areas where there are unusual concentrations of wierd substances, then get your act together and find out how it got there. I fully support anyone who can solve such peculiarities, and those responsible have to be made accountable. The trouble is, by assuming that every contrail you see is a chemtrail, then you destroy your own argument and will continue to be labelled by authorities as a misguided group, not to be taken seriously.<br>Without exception, from what I have seen so far on utube clips, the pro-chemtrail comments and observations are just bizarre. For example, a shot of a taxying 727 is labelled as a chemtrail spray plane because it has no windows and no markings. Why does this excite suspicion? Are you not aware that since these old types no longer cut the mustard as people transporters (too old for customers to be happy with) they invariably get set up as freighters. This means the seats and passenger stuff is removed, windows blanked off as a cargo interior is fitted. These old girls number in the thousands and keep our airfreight system moving. Why unmarked? A lot of the smaller freight companies do not have a fancy logo, nor care about one. Nobody knows who the hell they are anyway. Plus, I have been told by colleagues in the freight game that sometimes it is an advantage to be unmarked at some destinations so as not to attract the same high-level graft costs the name-brand freighter attract, from corrupt customs and fuel agents.<br>Another clip comment related to footage of two airliners flying the same route, with one above the other. The upper one making minimal trail whilst the lower one did. The comment was that these spray boys use legitamate airliners to mask their wherabouts. Sounds like a great idea except that the far more plausible observation is simply that both aircraft are on the same route with the usual 1000ft vertical separation required by law.<br><br>You don’t seem to have any concept of just how much of Australia is observed from above every day, by all manner of pilots and civillians. Where are these secret bases?How do they hide them? But do not assume for a moment that I support any increased US activity on pur soil, because I absolutely do not. If I ever saw ‘secret’ base, I would be telling you loud and clear.<br>Another clip touted as showing a chemical drop is in fact air to air footage of a Boeing 747 Airtanker (we call them firebombers) doing a test drop during trials for forest fire suppression work. That is the fact of it. <br><br>If there is sinister stuff going on, you have to very very careful how you approach it. Peoples enthusiasm is turning this argument into a laughing-stock, and ultimately provide the best cover ever for anyone who actually was up to no good. Think about it.<br>Speak only informed truth and not wild supposition and your cause will regain strength. <br>I reiterate that in oreder for commercial airliners to be spraying you, all over the world, there by default has to be the absolute biggest global conspiracy ever at work, involving not thousands, but millions of aviation professionals. Tell me, are all these pilots, crew, engineers, groundstaff, admin people, loadmasters, bean counters, and so on suppressed by threat or paid off by wads of cash? Out of the millions who would have to be aware of it, nobody spills the beans? Come on.<br>The crew don’t know about it, you might suggest. Well, Why are there not scores of crashes from overloaded aircraft (cause the crew didn’t know about the 2000kg tank that the engineers never spotted either) failing to clear the fence.
By Laurie on 2010 12 02 - 14:48:07
For a pilot you got sh&tloads; of time on your hands, shouldnt u be out spayn pea crops or something.<br>Gotta give you “A” for persistence against the face of reality though.<br>You really are a good speaker,, you sure your not a politician,,the only real damage your doing is to confuse the people that are on the fence so to speak, ones that have not researched the hard facts and evidence, ones that have not actually seen these sprays widen out covering a once clear blue sky,, but that’s all your goal is, you already know that, is it not Laurence, to keep the semi asleep semi asleep, you dont even attempt to address the above points, but only to linger on hypnotic like with false words of wisdom to come across as a reasonably good fellow,,,,well Laurence, let me tell you something EVERYBODY awakens at some point,,tell that to your paymaster…<br><br>People… Chemtrails are either real or not real,,Laurence’s goal is to mentally place you in the middle of those realities through doubt, thus disabling your action’s.,,,you will not hear from me again,,,,,,,,,, Merry Chrismas Mr Laurence
By Laurie is a Shill on 2010 12 02 - 17:52:26
Laurie, I haven’t seen anyone on this forum, trying to say that all airliners are spraying chemtrails..<br><br>Those of us who have been observing chemtrails for a while, know what is a contrail and what is not. There are plenty of planes in the sky, leaving normal contrails. We don’t have any beef with them.<br><br>I have seen chemtrails being sprayed, and if the conditions are right, in a few hours time you can see them drifting down towards earth on the air currents. Nobody can tell me that is how normal contrails behave!<br><br>And yes, sometimes they do stop and start! You better believe it! If you aren’t seeing it, then count yourself lucky that your part of the world is not being bombarded.<br><br>And how about this picture…() taken only a couple of weeks ago in Canberra. Can you explain this away, too?<br><br>These strange formations stayed in the sky for hours, gradually spreading out into a haze, so don’t try to tell me it was a sky-writer, because sky writing disappears quite quickly.<br><br>Call me crazy, but it looks very much like it spells out “XIC”. Google it, and it will come up as “the mark of the beast”. Now, that’s either some kind of expensive hoax, or it’s something sinister. Wouldn’t you agree?<br><br>I cannot claim to know “who” or “why” we we’re being sprayed, but my common sense tells me that something is not right here.<br><br>Sure, chemtrails are “hit and miss” like you say. But if everyone is your target, it doesn’t really matter if it hits or misses, because eventually everyone gets affected. Either in the air, or in the water supply, or leached into the soil. Either way, eventually everyone is affected. <br><br>See, you don’t want to kill people off suddenly. That would cause an uproar, and might actually spur people into taking action. <br><br>No, no, no. They don’t want that. You kill people little by little - death by degrees. You want them well enough to keep working and paying their taxes like good little sheep, but sick enough that they spend a small fortune on pharmaceuticals, and lethargic enough that they don’t really care too much about anything, so long as they can sit in front of the tv, eating their microwave dinner…<br><br>So, you spray some poisons in the air, add some fluoride into their water (under false pretenses), a few thousand different toxins into their food supply, and soon people start to think it’s normal to be sick all the time. Oh, that’s normal to get coughs and colds all the time. ..It’s normal to have “allergies”... It’s normal to be on five different medications by the time you turn 50. People…..THAT’S NOT NORMAL!!!!! That is a sign of a sick society!! <br><br>Have you heard the saying…<br><br>“They came first for the Communists,<br>and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.<br><br>Then they came for the trade unionists,<br>and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.<br><br>Then they came for the Jews,<br>and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.<br><br>Then they came for me<br>and by that time no one was left to speak up.”<br><br>People whinge and whine about the government, but they still believe that the government will protect them against anything that’s REALLY bad…<br><br>Yes, let’s look at their track record will we? There’s mercury tooth fillings, mercury in vaccines, Agent Orange, aspartame, fluoride, thalidomide and on and on it goes. <br><br>So don’t trust in the government to protect us. They’ve proven that they’ll KNOWINGLY subject us to things that will harm us, and then cover their tracks to protect themselves.<br><br>Pharmaceutical companies have been caught out writing up fake research in medical journals, falsifying records, and submitting false data in order to get their drugs approved for sale. They use “respected” scientists and doctors to give their product credibility.<br><br>It just goes to show, that when you have billions of dollars to throw around, you can always find someone “respectable” to say whatever you want them to, and keep the masses satisfied that all is well with the world, and that the latest reality TV show is really the most important thing that we need to worry ourselves over…<br><br>I’ll trust in my own instincts and form my own judgements before I trust the words of “experts”, thank you very much.<br><br>They’re only experts until some other expert comes along to prove them wrong…
By The Feisty One on 2010 12 03 - 09:06:38
Laurie is a Shill, your’e right, I have some time on my hands right now. I’m not spraying, I’m on standby with a firebomber. And do you assume my name is Laurence just the same way you assume other things?<br>The Feisty One, I thank you for your comments. I actually wholeheartedly agree with all your sentiments and comments. We are on the same page indeed. Except for when I looked at the picture, which I’m afraid only shows contrails as far as I can judge. (looks like a waypoint at lower left and a wind from left to right.) As for the symbolism, well I doubt that anyone would have bothered to organise the four or five separate aircraft to generate something to draw attention to themselves would they?<br>I have never seen a trail apparently settle toward earth, and god knows I look at them plenty. Contrails, like clouds are all unique, and there can always be lots of variation in their appearence.<br>I am also totally opposed to any kind of climate control, so if anyone can point me at who is doing this I would appreciate it. <br>I have yet to see anthing that I would consider out of place on any footage presented as chemtrailing. And although not everyone is saying that all airliners are doing it, the ‘evidence’ put forward is almost entirely comprised of sightings and photos and footage of completely normal aircraft activity. Everyone passionate about the topic, when they see a jet trail, is automatically concluding the worst without any basis for it whatsoever - because they are pasionate about what might be going on. And I understand that. Credibility is everything when it comes to exposing a crime. Somehow, as a group you need to filter out the mistaken observations and collate the genuine ones. Otherwise the masses will never take you seriously. <br>There is quite possibly some seriously bad stuff happenning, though on a scale much smaller than is being generally assumed. <br>I also have to say, despite what some might accuse me of being, I am heartened by the fact that so many people are indeed questioning things. This is what is needed today more than ever in history, since never before have the people been lied to as much as right now.<br>Good luck all.
By Laurie on 2010 12 05 - 03:36:59
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