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Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?
Categories: [ Chemtrails ]
Vapour trails left by British bombers on route to attack flying-bomb sites encircle the dome of St. Paul's Cathedral. London, 1944.
All those who passionately believe that "contrails dissipate quickly" whereas "chemtrails linger" and are deeply offended by the sceptical position that TNRA takes in regard to these claims, are free to "unlike" Truth News.
If, on the other hand, you would like to engage in rational debate, you're most welcome to do so.
However, please be advised that the information I have to impart may be shocking and difficult to grasp if you have been a "chemtrail alarmist" for a long time.
The often cited claim that "normal contrails dissipate quickly" is total bunkum.
There is not a shred of science to backup that claim. Nothing, nada, zippo!
Those who promote this idea are simply repeating something they read on a web page without checking sources.
CONTRAIL SCIENCE
For a contrail to form, suitable conditions must occur immediately behind a jet engine in the expanding engine exhaust plume. A contrail will form if, as the exhaust gases cool and mix with surrounding air, the humidity becomes high enough (or, equivalently, the air temperature becomes low enough) for liquid water to condense on particles and form liquid droplets. If the local air is cold enough, these newly formed droplets then freeze and form ice particles that make up a contrail.
Because the basic processes are very well understood, contrail formation for a given aircraft flight can be accurately predicted if atmospheric temperature and humidity conditions are known.
After the initial formation of ice, a contrail evolves in one of two ways. If the humidity is low, the contrail will be short-lived. Newly formed ice particles will quickly evaporate. The resulting contrail will extend only a short distance behind the aircraft. If the humidity is high, the contrail will be persistent. Newly formed ice particles will continue to grow in size by taking water from the surrounding atmosphere. The resulting line-shaped contrail extends for large distances behind an aircraft. Persistent contrails can last for hours while growing to several kilometers in width and 200 to 400 meters in height. Contrails spread because of air turbulence created by the passage of aircraft, differences in wind speed along the flight track, and possibly through effects of solar heating.
Thus, the surrounding atmosphere’s conditions determine to a large extent whether or not a contrail will form after an aircraft’s passage, and how it evolves. Other factors that influence contrail formation include engine fuel efficiency, which affects the amount of heat and water emitted in the exhaust plume.
- source
TNRA is informed by science and is not interested in propping up anyone's belief systems, and we don't apologise for that.
But, please, don't take it from me, speak to any meteorologist or any pilot and they'll tell you straight, that there is HUGE variation in the length and persistence of contrails. Sometimes they don't form at all, other times they form, but disspate quickly, other times they persist and spread out.
That's the facts folks, and it's been that way since planes first went up in the sky.
If you believe otherwise, I'm afraid you've been conned.
Forgive me if I seem rude or impatient on this topic, but every few months I come across a new wave of people who have been subjected to the same false propaganda about chemtrails, and I have to run the same arguments and cite the same articles over and over again. It does wear one's patience down.
Before making some kind of angry reply, I urge you to read this article and associated links. It's fairly detailed, and deals with most of the usual claims made by chemtrail alarmists.
Finally, let me qualify all this by saying that I do not doubt that geo-engineering programs exist, and that, indeed, some of the patented techniques discussed at international forums include the creation of artificial cirrus cloud. Does this, however, entitle you to conclude that every spreading contrail you see is an example of such geo-engineering?
Think about it.
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josh stupidity says..
bwahhaa! that s because thats all you ever say feckknuckle! - you simply state, that contrails may ( under specific rare atmospheric conditions ) persist. ( for inderminate time )
when yconfronted with the non rare, astonishingly numerous documented accounts chemtrails - you simply dismiss them as persistant contrails, nothing to worry about.. as far as quoting you.. all one has to do is read through this very thread to see the totallity of your stupidity.
fact is.. stuff is going on, that can not simply be explained by your continued assertions, unqualified and anonymous as they are.. that we have nothing to worry about, we should relax, they are simply persistant contrails. go stuff yaself moron. youre a smelly stain on the underpants of the internet
By lhguhg on 2015 02 16 - 16:02:44
Fenton, you have to start going to the scource of (ALL) Problems, we have aliens infiltrating every form of hierarchy & Government, in most places that protect their own, Courts, churches, ministers, advisors, bankers, these aliens are called Zionist Jews!
By Lachlan on 2015 02 21 - 08:45:02
Fenton did you get that messege?
By Lachlan on 2015 02 21 - 08:46:26
fenton works for the jews. thats why he lies. he pretends his unqualified opinion is the ultimate truth.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/chemtrails-the-consequences-of-toxic-metals-and-chemical-aerosols-on-human-health/19047?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=chemtrails-the-consequences-of-toxic-metals-and-chemical-aerosols-on-human-health
By ydt on 2015 02 22 - 08:30:54
ydt/Andrew Adams/Skywatcher,
so you are showing your true face now? Antisemitic hate?
You know, blaming Jews for everything and sinking into a delirium of conspiracy theories can end very badly. My whole country went through this once.
It can happen with individuals too. Check out the story of David Joseph Lenio.
By Josh on 2015 03 03 - 15:18:46
To compare any rational. research with statements like that, is in itself an insult to common sense, one merely has to look past the propaganda to find the truth. Maybe you should learn about that word? TRUTH.
By Daveeed on 2015 03 03 - 16:00:08
josh you feckwit.. do you know what anti semite means? it means anti arab.. to apply just criticism to jews, or anyone else when they deserve it, doesnt make anyone anti anything you pathetic moron.
as for conspiracy theories? lol - are you serious? is the official account of 911 the truth - or is it a conspiracy theory?
is there a company in australia called Australian Rain Corporation? or is that a conspiracy theory?
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/malcolm-turnbull-rain-man,7437
feckwit.
By thsh on 2015 03 04 - 08:26:12
so i mention the word jews, and josh gets all bent out of shape.. you a jew josh? one of the chosen ones are you? like jon faine?
ya know, its not just me who is a bit pissed of at jews, israel is viewed negatively around the world
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Poll-Israel-viewed-negatively-around-the-world
and not for no good reasons..
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stat/un.html
its called justified criticism, not anti semitism you schuck.. - pfffft - such chutzpah!
By etrh on 2015 03 05 - 16:53:18
josh you pathetic punce -
people dont like jews - for good reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjSonoklkVc
deal with it.
its ok to demonise all muslims on the lies of 9/11, or what you call a conspiracy theory, but any justifiable criticism of israel is automatically anti semetic - either youre a blatant hypocrite or a total knobhead - or both
By gtrfstgh on 2015 03 06 - 07:15:15
Many aircraft have been filmed (In Flight 30.000ft) Turning Spray nozzes on & Off performing Bio-hazzard spraying over cities esp London, it is a undisputed fact that bioenginerring is happening. We want to know WHY? The Future spreading of disease? To Lower our immune system? Damage our respiratory system? Kill our nervous system? Sterilise us ( GOYIM) I bet the KIKE Knows!
By Daveeed on 2015 03 07 - 07:28:26
Wonderful Blog- 15 year old girl Debunks Holocaust Scam, great reading, and acknowledgement of the glaring facts of the Jews centuries of lies & deceit! she got an (A) Wonderful to watch the youth see through the Jew Propaganda machine.
By Daveeed on 2015 03 07 - 07:41:48
yes daveeed
josh wants to pretend that criticism of the jews is unjustified and outrages.. thats another debate he simply can not win because again, all the evidence points to the contrary of what he says - i think hes nuttier than this idiot
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/03/03/top-10-points-from-netanyahus-speech-to-congress-proving-he-is-crazy/
By thtwe on 2015 03 07 - 07:58:23
It seems that way, everyone wakes up in their own time, keep sending links, Eustace mullins a good revisionalist, amongst hundreds you never see on Lame stream media. Well done,
By Daveeed on 2015 03 07 - 17:49:15
@ Daveeed,
i guess according to josh, if a jew is critical of what israel does, he must be one of those “self hating jews”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/netanyahu-is-the-right-man-to-address-the-us-congress-on-iran/5434444
funny how josh immediately blurts out the ol’ “anti-semite” canard -
he obviously has an agenda.. like josh… and other jews regarding the truth about 9/11 - they just cant face the truth about anything, 9/11, chemtrails, israel.. the truth is their enemy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nex-oSKPX2w
By rettj on 2015 03 08 - 07:01:21
@rettj -They can,t help themselves unfortunately, brainwashed by the Talmud, & ofcourse in their (Own) minds they are the chosen ones, most are psychopaths like Nuttyyahoo-getting desperate now like cornered rats! Justice for germans good site on the true happenings of WW2. Check it out.
By Daveeed on 2015 03 08 - 07:41:40
this shows the stupidity of this website
http://www.truthnews.com.au/web/radio/story/lies_and_cover_ups_by_the_australian_national_broadcaster
|“In the course of our interview Chris documents a range of unethical and downright deceitful practices engaged by ABC Lateline in their coverage of a scandal which indirectly led to the highy controversial and despised NT Intervention.”
and further down
” During tonight’s interview Chris steps us through his research which shows conclusively that senior ABC producers engaged in distortion of facts, wanton fabrication of evidence, and used testimony of informants who were clearly lying.
Such practices are of course all too common at the ABC, as regular listeners to this show will know. As with the biased reporting and cheap attacks on the character of Schapelle Corby’s family, the one-sided coverage of the Syrian conflict or the suppression of critical evidence concerning the 9/11 terrorist attacks, this shocking story adds weight to the case for radically overhauling or even dismantling the ABC which has flagrantly breached its charter so many times.”
chris graham calls people who question the official account of 911.. conspiracy theorists? he is a liar, and an idiot. - another one!
By trnj on 2015 03 11 - 08:40:09
Heard Tony Abbott is going to print our own $ to pay off the criminal debt! Yipppeeee! Now thats what I call a Government!
By Daveeed on 2015 03 11 - 16:08:56
Swedish Official Admits Toxic Chemtrails Are Real & NOT Conspiracy Official lifts the lid on what chemtrails are…
http://www.neonnettle.com/sphere/209-swedish-official-admits-toxic-chemtrails-are-real-not-conspiracy
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChemTrails?src=hash
By ntyjmr on 2015 03 15 - 11:13:21
The 1st of many to come forward, about many issues, Chemtrails, Tenpenny-vaccinations, Food labelling, Energy scams, Isis scams, Terror scams, False flag agendas-War scams, Propaganda exposed, Media presstatutes. The world is WAKING UP ROTHSCHILD!
By Daveeed on 2015 03 15 - 14:49:00
ntyjmr,
to put things into perspective, Pernilla Hagberg is or was the group leader of the green party in the municipal council of Vingåker, population around 4300, in 2012 when she made her statements.
There is no indication whatsoever that she has any ‘inside information’. She just fell for a bunch of sensational claims like other chemtrail believers before her.
Here is the original article from 2012 that Neon Nettle quotes, without linking to it for some reason - maybe because it’s old news ...
A translated quote from that article:
As a follow-up, she was interviewed by “Aftonbladet” from Stockholm.
A translated quote from that article:
No “admission” anywhere, just a collection of the usual conspiracy claims found on the Internet. Her father is proud though, as he wrote on a UFO enthusiasts site.
By Josh on 2015 03 15 - 16:03:30
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